View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:27 pm



Reply to topic  [ 21 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
berserker. 
Author Message

Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:01 am
Posts: 7
so im new to this and this might not be the best question but if you could help that would be amazing.

berserker. okay so i have read that you can easily be born as one, and id like to know how you would know if you where one if you where simply just born with that trait. also, how you would learn to control and understand this power to use it. the last thing to this question is I have also heard of an artifact that can make you have a "berserker" rage. i think a staff, but i am not completely sure have you heard of anything like this.?

Also, i heard a story and wondered if anyone else has.
So in this story a Asgard Berserker and he came to earth to fight and fell into love with a human so he stayed upon doing so he broke his staff into three pieces (which the staff gave his his berserker rage) and hid them.


Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:18 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:39 pm
Posts: 677
Brother, there are many threads here relating to Berserkers and you will find some very interesting information on them. I know I have. There are several schools of thought on this - some say that it is a learned state through sharmanism, others that it is something you are born with - I think it will be a topic discussed long after we have finished with it!

I can only speak from my point of view. If you are born with the berserker trait, it could be something you are unconsciously aware of. A deep seeded emotion or feeling that lives in the pit of your stomach. It does not mean that you are endemically violent or angry all the time. It gives you a strength and a defiance you never knew you had. If you become aware of it at a younger age and do not give in to it, you can control it. It is not easy and it is emotionally, mentally and physically exhausting. Do not confuse this with normal teenage and young adulthood anger and rage - that is a normal state where you rebel against your parents and society (we have all lived through that!). This is something far deeper and has roots in your soul.

Everyone is different and everyone deals with these emotions differently. Berserker emotions/genes cannot be switched off, they cannot be grown out of, they cannot be controlled through the use of drugs or violence. They can be controlled by using the strength from within - for that is something I believe every Berserker has - and by focusing your physical strength into something productive. As you become older it becomes much easier to control and to live with - to the point where only you are aware of your abilities - as you 'fit in quietly' in society.

As I said this is only my point of view. I became aware of these feelings at about 12yo and they began with extremely violent dreams which left me exhausted upon waking. At the time, I knew very little of the Vikings, but the dreams were of Viking wars. I knew this when I began researching them when I was about 14yo. I learnt to control the emotions by teaching myself a form of meditation and that was when my quest for knowledge began. I have had only one instance in my life where I have 'unleashed the beast' (so to speak), and I have reigned it in before it got out of control. It is a scary situation and not something I relish, but I will do it again if my life or those of my kin are threatened.

There is much written about beserkers and beserking - read it all and you will learn what is the truth (as far as we can decipher) and what is fiction. I wish you luck brother, and I am sure we will all learn much from the comments here. Storm.


Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:59 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:44 pm
Posts: 1530
Storm has provided excellent information.

There are many good sources of information on this topic available online, one I recommend as a starting point is http://uppsalaonline.com/berserk.htm

I can not recall ever hearing of any type of mystical object that would aid in the berserk transformation.


Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:02 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:08 am
Posts: 52
Tyrsman wrote:
Storm has provided excellent information.

There are many good sources of information on this topic available online, one I recommend as a starting point is http://uppsalaonline.com/berserk.htm

I can not recall ever hearing of any type of mystical object that would aid in the berserk transformation.


I do not agree with the writer of this article. He says that it almost certainly isn't attributable to amanita muscaria, because of the alleged limited supply and that the norsemen probably didn't know of it's existence. I hail from Northern Scandinavia and I can tell you that amanita muscaria is very common, I see it all the time when walking in the forests. I've tried it, and it brings about incessant puking after a while, but it also removes a lot of painful sensations, gives euphoria and content.

Edit: I have to add that I removed as much as I could of the poisonous effects, but puking is not preventable unless you want to remove the psychedelic affects as well.


Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:16 am
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:44 pm
Posts: 1530
Galskap wrote:
I do not agree with the writer of this article. He says that it almost certainly isn't attributable to amanita muscaria, because of the alleged limited supply and that the norsemen probably didn't know of it's existence. I hail from Northern Scandinavia and I can tell you that amanita muscaria is very common, I see it all the time when walking in the forests. I've tried it, and it brings about incessant puking after a while, but it also removes a lot of painful sensations, gives euphoria and content.

Edit: I have to add that I removed as much as I could of the poisonous effects, but puking is not preventable unless you want to remove the psychedelic affects as well.


Well meet Galskap, welcome to the forum!

Although I do not necessarily agree 100% with that particular article myself, I cannot help but wonder if centuries of climate evolution has allowed for the amanita muscaria to spread to the north. That is just a side issue though, I think that bersekers most likely used some sort of organic chemical compound to help them in their ability to achieve their state.


Last edited by Tyrsman on Sat May 02, 2015 6:12 am, edited 1 time in total.



Fri May 01, 2015 4:20 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:08 am
Posts: 52
Thank you!


Fri May 01, 2015 4:51 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:43 pm
Posts: 160
I would agree with Storm. I have these very intense rages that are triggered by a couple thing, and I have a feeling that if someone were to trigger one of these rages they would NOT be safe. I do not know if this is a legitimate berserker rage or just strong anger, but I can feel that if I was pushed too far I could become very dangerous.


Tue May 19, 2015 6:45 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:44 pm
Posts: 1530
DefenderofMountains wrote:
I would agree with Storm. I have these very intense rages that are triggered by a couple thing, and I have a feeling that if someone were to trigger one of these rages they would NOT be safe. I do not know if this is a legitimate berserker rage or just strong anger, but I can feel that if I was pushed too far I could become very dangerous.

I think there is a very strong probability that what you experience is a trait that was exploited and built upon by the bersekers. An iron bar is very dangerous when swung around in a rage but sharpen and hone that same bar and it become deadly.


Tue May 19, 2015 7:08 pm
Profile

Joined: Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:36 am
Posts: 144
I am the mother of sons with quick release adrenal glands combined with physical and mental strength that when provoked can do extraordinary things as did their father and my grandfather. This has seemed to me to be triggered mentally more that physical. They have all incurred injuries without responding in anger or violence. But when assaulted or observing an assault on another surpass the strength of the assailant, if you get my drift. Any who know them would not incure their wrath, Or mine. ;) So I think it is a decision based on values. A berserker would go into battle ready to fight.


Thu May 28, 2015 1:22 am
Profile

Joined: Mon May 25, 2015 8:18 pm
Posts: 14
Berserker means to be possessed by the Sprint of the bear. Some warrior's belived they were a bear and that was done by wearing the bear skin look up the work berserk in the german English dictionary.


Thu May 28, 2015 7:45 am
Profile

Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:08 pm
Posts: 632
There were also ulfhednar.
Funny as this may sound. As a child (my family will attest to this), I had an underbite like a bulldog and used to go around acting like a dog. I would bark at people and bite people and crawl around like a dog even though I was old enough to walk. I did walk and all the normal things too...I just wanted to be a dog.
In kindergarten, I got into trouble for starting a stick fighting club.
I always wanted to be fighting.
I will never forget as a child forced to go to church (about 9 years old), an older kid pushed my little cousin, so I jumped up on a table and dropkicked the boy and started beating his head into the floor until I thought he was dead. Thankfully he wasn't.
I was never a bully, but when I would see someone getting bullied or someone tried to mess with me, I usually ended up in a fight and blacking out until I won it.
In high school, every fight I got into, I blacked out and won it, except for one that was 5 against me and I was surrounded by many more. (It is fun being the only white kid on the football team.)
The last high school fight I was in, I blacked out and hit every single person who tried to break it up and didn't realize it until I had knocked the kid silly to the floor and he was slumped down like a sack of potatoes. Then I came to.

I was one of those kids who had a full beard at 15 and back hair.

Then I joined the Army Infantry. Where I was taught discipline and controlled aggression. I also started doing some boxing and still get sparring in when I can. Now I am fairly controlled and try not to get in a fight, because I don't particularly want to hurt anyone.
I know exactly how to pump myself up to go into the states I used to go into...but I no longer black out. I am fully aware. When I get hit...it just makes me all the more aggressive. I don't feel any pain until the next day.

Call it whatever you want.


Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:16 am
Profile

Joined: Sun May 04, 2014 6:12 am
Posts: 120
Hail!

I am a "Modern Berzerkergangr" let me give
you what I understand about myself and my
experiences. I don't have authors, articles
or references to book knowledge. Just what
I know of myself. Here we go.

The "Berzerk" is a state of mind that unites
consciousness within myself. This is a unique
power. I am older and much wiser now and I
now am learning what my berzerk is and how
to use it.

At age 20, I was chosen by Odin himself. I
was tortured over 6 days in a solitary cell
in prison. During the 6 days of no food or
water I did what I had to do to stay alive.

During these 6 days I found magick power
within myself while for 24 hours of all 6
days I taunted the guards and warned
them of their impending deaths. (2 years
later one of the guards who hurt me
along with his guard wife died. He killed her,
then himself. But thats another story for
another time. A gift for a gift is how I play.)

Anyways on the 6th day I died and left
my body and stood before Odin. He gave
me my life back. After re-entering my body
within that second, my cell door swung open
by the guads and I was transferred to a different
jail where I did many more months of solitary.

I fought jail SWAT teams 30 or 40 times. In
these rages I was naked. Alone.

I had food. I had water. But I would not
submit to my tormentors. So they would send
in their squads of 5-6 armed men to fight me.
I never gave in too their commands or orders
to submit.

I fought, while laughing hysterically and
foaming at the mouth. They beat me down
every time and won every fight. Eventually
they determined I wouldn't stop so they put
me on hardcore psych drugs. This prevented
me physically being able to go berzerk. But
I used the berzerk to fuel and empower myself
magickally.

That is just one example of the power of
the berzerk. I can overpower ANYONE. I was
a nightclub bouncer for years and although
I didn't lift weights or do any cardio I could
easily overpower big steroid idiots and any
threat easily.

I had to quit the job after the berzerk went
off and I took on an entire sports team by
myself. I had to leave after that.

The berzerk is a form of Demi-God power. It
is something I was born with. It is a form of
psychic power. It is a type of rage that will
make you 3 times faster then a normal human.

It will give you the ability to know 5 moves
ahead of your opponent in a fight. You will
stop his attacks before he can even do them.
I do not feel any pain. My body make take
damage, but I won't notice until the next day.

The rage exhausts me completely. I will be
drained of all physical and mental strength
usually for days. The berzerk is an energy
you can harness but when you do it will
take time to recover.

In the form of magick it is super powerful.
Harnessing the berzerk for more then just
fighting is the magick/spiritual practice of
Odinism. I was born this way. I have a
strange birth deformity on one of my eyes.

It is noticeable and has been their for life. Just
another mark of Odin and my connection to
Him and the Gods I honor. In other states of
berzerk rage I once let out a yell at a person
I hated, and a separate person witnessed
the house shake during my scream.

I don't know if you can learn Berzerker but
I am born this way. It is more then just
battle fury, it is a lifestyle and spiritual path.

I don't run around raging out and being an
idiot. I am incredibly kind and peaceful and
use that same berzerk energy to bless my
family and kin. Harnessing berzerk is a thing
you do. You can read about it. But I think
that only other people born with this gift
can understand what I mean.

Hope this helps.

Hail to all of you! Hail Odin!

Bucky


Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:53 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:25 am
Posts: 577
It sounds a bit like "aggressive" PTSD the way some people describe it...actually.

All I know is one of the "signs" of being one is spontaneous blood appearing on the body with no wounds. One actually bleeds through the pores when upset, but not all do this and it is only listed by some as a "necessary" identifier.

I feel little connection to bears, but I have PTSD and I bleed out of the pores of my face since I had a surgery which threw my entire system for a loop. I tend to bleed in such a way it looks like I just finished dining on a human heart. I kept a little blood on my glasses for weeks out of the whole "hey, this is really cool regardless."-factor

It hasn't happened in weeks, but then again, I am by nature not an angry person. After my surgery when nothing seemed to go correctly via my treatment, there was much anger.


Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:42 pm
Profile

Joined: Sun May 04, 2014 6:12 am
Posts: 120
Tyrienne,

Please enlighten me on your battle experiences
with physical violence and other berzerk traits
you have. Bleeding out of your face sounds
medical. I don't bleed out of my face. If you are
describing my experience as "aggressive" PTSD
I don't think you understand Berzerkergangr.

I am not constantly in a hostile frame of mind and
am incredibly peaceful and a pacifist unless provoked.

Your scholarly and academic knowledge is noted.
But what experience do you have with Berzerk?

You openly talk about how you are a diplomat etc
in other posts and how you couldnt possibly handle
an interrogation if you were hired as a cop.

So what makes you a berzerk as well? Other then
blood coming out of your face?

I had to add some extra thoughts to this. I am sorry
Tyrienne but this is not an insult but an observation
simply based on my perception. This is a mystery
cult, but I speak my truth. This is not an attack:

Don't assume you know me or my lifestyle. Don't
assume your academic method of labels and quoting
books is relevant.

Especially when it comes to myself. You claim to be
a lot of things. In one post, you mentioned how
you believed you were a "warrior" by confronting
others in your social group. This may make you feel
brave socially, but social dynamics are not involved
in the battlefield or war zones.

Socially I have walked away from many groups.
I am a lone wolf. I don't need a designated title or
others to approve my belief of what or who I am
in society. I am a loner. I have a family. Friends
that are warriors and am loved by many but those
that don't know me personally fear or hate me.

Sorry, but my Berzerk has never involved being
a diplomat or trying to restore or maintain order
or balance in any situation. It is extreme violence.

If you are not a Berzerkergangr, yet have information
or some quote from a book then go for it. For myself
and my posts I write what I know of myself. I am NOT
some maniac running around with PTSD. I have it, but
no, I don't live the fantasy of an aggressive psycho
stalking the streets like I imagine you visualize me as.

I am a berzerkergangr. I am not a member of any
organized assembly. I know you speak of being a
"High ranking" whatever. That is merely a label to
me and your accomplishments in certifications of
knowledge from higher learning just means you
are a slave to thought and all bondage attached
to it. Academics with superiority complex do amuse
me. I knew of one academic that pursued all these
titles, certificates etc, that she didn't know herself
and blew her head off with a gun in her mansion.

I live in a world beyond just thought and 5 senses.

Experience is real. Action speaks. Talk is just talk.

If that seems super mean and cold I am sorry.
I do respect you as an Odinist, I just want to
be sure you know what part you play in our
love for our Ancestral Gods. I am a berzerk
Shaman person. I speak what I know.

Bucky


Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:29 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:25 am
Posts: 577
bucky wrote:
Tyrienne,

Please enlighten me on your battle experiences
with physical violence and other berzerk traits
you have. Bleeding out of your face sounds
medical. I don't bleed out of my face. If you are
describing my experience as "aggressive" PTSD
I don't think you understand Berzerkergangr.

I am not constantly in a hostile frame of mind and
am incredibly peaceful and a pacifist unless provoked.

Your scholarly and academic knowledge is noted.
But what experience do you have with Berzerk?

You openly talk about how you are a diplomat etc
in other posts and how you couldnt possibly handle
an interrogation if you were hired as a cop.

So what makes you a berzerk as well? Other then
blood coming out of your face?

I had to add some extra thoughts to this. I am sorry
Tyrienne but this is not an insult but an observation
simply based on my perception. This is a mystery
cult, but I speak my truth. This is not an attack:

Don't assume you know me or my lifestyle. Don't
assume your academic method of labels and quoting
books is relevant.

Especially when it comes to myself. You claim to be
a lot of things. In one post, you mentioned how
you believed you were a "warrior" by confronting
others in your social group. This may make you feel
brave socially, but social dynamics are not involved
in the battlefield or war zones.

Socially I have walked away from many groups.
I am a lone wolf. I don't need a designated title or
others to approve my belief of what or who I am
in society. I am a loner. I have a family. Friends
that are warriors and am loved by many but those
that don't know me personally fear or hate me.

Sorry, but my Berzerk has never involved being
a diplomat or trying to restore or maintain order
or balance in any situation. It is extreme violence.

If you are not a Berzerkergangr, yet have information
or some quote from a book then go for it. For myself
and my posts I write what I know of myself. I am NOT
some maniac running around with PTSD. I have it, but
no, I don't live the fantasy of an aggressive psycho
stalking the streets like I imagine you visualize me as.

I am a berzerkergangr. I am not a member of any
organized assembly. I know you speak of being a
"High ranking" whatever. That is merely a label to
me and your accomplishments in certifications of
knowledge from higher learning just means you
are a slave to thought and all bondage attached
to it. Academics with superiority complex do amuse
me. I knew of one academic that pursued all these
titles, certificates etc, that she didn't know herself
and blew her head off with a gun in her mansion.

I live in a world beyond just thought and 5 senses.

Experience is real. Action speaks. Talk is just talk.

If that seems super mean and cold I am sorry.
I do respect you as an Odinist, I just want to
be sure you know what part you play in our
love for our Ancestral Gods. I am a berzerk
Shaman person. I speak what I know.

Bucky



I was not clear enough. I am not claiming I am one by any means. I only stated what little I know about it. In fact, I stated I had NO connection to bears whatsoever.

The bleeding I experienced was indicated by some people I know as a trait of "Berserkers". No, I am not anywhere close to your bravery.


Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:34 pm
Profile

Joined: Sun May 04, 2014 6:12 am
Posts: 120
Hail Tyrienne,

My apology. I just thought you thought of
yourself as a Berzerk and from reading your
posts I notice you don't have those traits.

Thanks for not getting offended. I am brave
but then again, I don't have academic
knowledge like you do. Each of us carries
something unique. Truthfully I envy the fact
you have been thru higher learning in your
life. I am highly intelligent. I have been told
by psychiatric professionals I have genius IQ
however my life took me on an intense ride.

I will never insult anyone on this forum. If I
seem rude or mean or hostile towards any
one it is not my intention. However if I do,
by all means put me in my place.

I honor many of you in this forum as my
brothers and sisters of Odin! Hail!

Bucky


Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:07 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:25 am
Posts: 577
bucky wrote:
Hail Tyrienne,

My apology. I just thought you thought of
yourself as a Berzerk and from reading your
posts I notice you don't have those traits.

Thanks for not getting offended. I am brave
but then again, I don't have academic
knowledge like you do. Each of us carries
something unique. Truthfully I envy the fact
you have been thru higher learning in your
life. I am highly intelligent. I have been told
by psychiatric professionals I have genius IQ
however my life took me on an intense ride.

I will never insult anyone on this forum. If I
seem rude or mean or hostile towards any
one it is not my intention. However if I do,
by all means put me in my place.

I honor many of you in this forum as my
brothers and sisters of Odin! Hail!

Bucky


I am very difficulty to offend, actually. Thank you for your kind words, I am proud to call you Brother!

Sometimes, I am not very clear in what I write and I need to be "called out" as well to clarify my thoughts....


Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:33 am
Profile

Joined: Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:55 pm
Posts: 8
I an a bit confused. Berserkeers are shamanic warriors similar to shamanic warriors in Celtic culture? Or a "creature"?

In the Volsung Saga, it is said that the berserkers were in Odin’s lifeguard and that they “went without armour, were as mad as dogs and wolves, they bit their shields, were as strong as bears or oxen, they killed everybody, and neither fire nor iron bit them


Wed May 03, 2017 4:27 am
Profile

Joined: Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:35 am
Posts: 561
runewolf wrote:
I an a bit confused. Berserkeers are shamanic warriors similar to shamanic warriors in Celtic culture? Or a "creature"?

In the Volsung Saga, it is said that the berserkers were in Odin’s lifeguard and that they “went without armour, were as mad as dogs and wolves, they bit their shields, were as strong as bears or oxen, they killed everybody, and neither fire nor iron bit them


To go berserk, was very much a shamanic warrior practice. To emulate the beast, to abandon all fear, to act on instinct and superhuman strength. Sounds like one hell of an adrenaline to me. Not sure if substances were used, but these were men. The Berserkir are often associated with bears, but there were those who felt the connection to wolves, but I forget if they had a specific word for that kind of Berserkir.


Thu May 04, 2017 8:13 am
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 05, 2016 4:14 am
Posts: 378
Relying on such energy depletes your life force and certainly would lead to regretful decisions in todays age. Not very subtle either. Useful when cornered.


Fri May 05, 2017 12:37 am
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 21 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by ST Software for PTF.