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Fand wrote:
Much of my family are sheep following a flock
There are a lot of so called Odinists who are sheep, as well.


Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:04 am
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BigCountry wrote:
Fand wrote:
Much of my family are sheep following a flock
There are a lot of so called Odinists who are sheep, as well.


Every group has their sheep. Unfortunately, I'm the only non-christian in my family, besides my more or less agnostic/atheist uncle. Blood family, that use. My husband isn't Christian.


Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:10 pm
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BigCountry wrote:
Fand wrote:
Much of my family are sheep following a flock
There are a lot of so called Odinists who are sheep, as well.


That is true. I've heard Asatru described as "Nordic cosplay." Which is perhaps unfair. But the quip does point to a problem of committment.


Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:37 pm
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Wotan's Late Harvest wrote:
BigCountry wrote:
Fand wrote:
Much of my family are sheep following a flock
There are a lot of so called Odinists who are sheep, as well.


That is true. I've heard Asatru described as "Nordic cosplay." Which is perhaps unfair. But the quip does point to a problem of committment.


Nothing wrong with a bit of cosplay, in my opinion, but it does seem to be all it is for some so-called Ásatrúar. Then there is that other side of Ásatrú which seems to be made up of progressives. They resemble wiccans with a northern stylistic flair, to me. From my perspective, they don't have a real loyalty to their folk, and often times are very eclectic, in that they adopt bits and pieces from various cultures and religions. I wouldn't mind so much, if these people weren't trying to be the face and voice of Ásatrú as a whole.


Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:59 am
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Agreed. Wotan is called "Forth Rider," and" "Wanderer" among other things. For alleged followers of him, these folks seem to be lugging a prohibitive lot of pluralist baggage. They forget that he who tries to walk all paths gets nowhere.


Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:13 am
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You can't "red pill" somebody who thinks they're pursuing a utopia. If they were to wake up at all, they would wake up in excruciating pain (and soon pass out again.)

Utopianism is a disease. A scourge. Once someone believes that life can be perfect, totally free of struggle, they feel like they are there already. Just like Opium. They feel no pain, fear, or trouble. It's like they're asleep. They are easy to control at that point, but there is no spark left in them.

The blight simply needs to run its course. We have to try and find the people who are immune to it, and keep them safe, so there will be someone left to rebuild after the infected die out.

We're better off just trying to look after those who are immune, rather than trying to cure the infected. Even if you cure one of them, they'll just get infected again by another similar disease. If it's not monotheism, it will be communism, or gambling addiction, or maybe actual opium.


Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:12 am
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