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Funny, I can think of at least 2 groups we cannot criticize currently in the US. One owns our banks, the other owns the oil we needlessly purchase when our own reserves are superior...


Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:23 am
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Tyrienne wrote:
Funny, I can think of at least 2 groups we cannot criticize currently in the US. One owns our banks, the other owns the oil we needlessly purchase when our own reserves are superior...


Hmmm... Well, there's no need to mention who owns the banks. That's obvious. The ones who own the oil, must be Saudis, because you can criticize Muslims to a point, but the one and only Muslim nation the US doesn't mess with are the Saudis.


Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:26 pm
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Fjolnir wrote:
A man I respect has said that in his eyes the police are no longer the good guys. "They have in many cases become the thugs enforcing the will of the corrupt; of the corporate cartels.."

My friend's words might have been seen as absurd twenty years ago but now...now they have a much more authentic ring to them.


The late David Lane had a number of flaws. Still, he was spot on when he said it was time to put aside illusions about the police. "They are mercenaries." No mercenary is better than his master. Our masters today are people like Soros, the EU, Wall Street. Do you trust them? Then do not trust the police.


Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:31 am
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Wotan's Late Harvest wrote:
Fjolnir wrote:
A man I respect has said that in his eyes the police are no longer the good guys. "They have in many cases become the thugs enforcing the will of the corrupt; of the corporate cartels.."

My friend's words might have been seen as absurd twenty years ago but now...now they have a much more authentic ring to them.


The late David Lane had a number of flaws. Still, he was spot on when he said it was time to put aside illusions about the police. "They are mercenaries." No mercenary is better than his master. Our masters today are people like Soros, the EU, Wall Street. Do you trust them? Then do not trust the police.



Well said.


Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:32 pm
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BjornBerserk wrote:
Wotan's Late Harvest wrote:
Fjolnir wrote:
A man I respect has said that in his eyes the police are no longer the good guys. "They have in many cases become the thugs enforcing the will of the corrupt; of the corporate cartels.."

My friend's words might have been seen as absurd twenty years ago but now...now they have a much more authentic ring to them.


The late David Lane had a number of flaws. Still, he was spot on when he said it was time to put aside illusions about the police. "They are mercenaries." No mercenary is better than his master. Our masters today are people like Soros, the EU, Wall Street. Do you trust them? Then do not trust the police.



Well said.


Seconded


Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:42 pm
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The defenders of the police often say, "The police are only human." This is true. Unfortunately, health insurance, a regular job, and a retirement pension are all powerful inducements for a human to go against his own better judgment. I think of the times I've bit my tongue and let a corner be cut in my own routine job. I don't fool myself: after a few years of that as a cop, it gets easier and easier to let bigger corners be cut. Especially with the adulation from some quarters; the tendency of the American political right to get down on its knees and turn "cop-sucker."


Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:48 am
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It's not as though the human being who is a police officer is any more wicked than anyone else. It is the policies the man serves which are deplorable, and those who make those policies. The cop is just a tool, not the real enemy. But it would be a foolish thing to put one's faith in those cops for reasons already so accurately stated. Treat them with the same courtesy you would any other human being, but never forget whom they serve.


Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:44 am
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Fjolnir wrote:
A man I respect has said that in his eyes the police are no longer the good guys. "They have in many cases become the thugs enforcing the will of the corrupt; of the corporate cartels.."

My friend's words might have been seen as absurd twenty years ago but now...now they have a much more authentic ring to them.


Dogs protect those who feed them


Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:55 pm
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So... should we just feed the dogs ourselves?


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Fand wrote:
So... should we just feed the dogs ourselves?


The wakeful need no watchdogs.

I tend to favor community policing, with unarmed experts on retainer to do detective work.


Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:21 am
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The police rarely get called on my road. We have neighborhood watch signs that actually mean something. A couple years ago we had someone looking like they were casing out houses and me and the old men were standing there talking about it and one of the old men looked at me and said, "SOMEONE ought to go and follow that guy and see where he lives in case anything comes up missing!" ...so I did. I do things like that. We dont trust the cops either. The cops were at my neighbors house the other day about something that had nothing to do with him and my dog woke me up at 0230 barking, so I went up there with my shotgun and stood in a shadow while one knocked on his door and the other hid behind a bush with his gun...good thing they didn't **** with my neighbor.
We started doing that after someone broke in several of our houses and stole a lot of stuff. When the police were called, they didn't even investigate. We told them to take finger prints and their reply was, "Oh they just do that in the movies!" Now we tell each other if we are going to be gone for a few days. All of the folks around here will tell someone to beat feet quick if we know they don't belong.
In this day and age HONOR is not synonymous with LAW.


Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:59 am
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BigCountry wrote:
The police rarely get called on my road. We have neighborhood watch signs that actually mean something. A couple years ago we had someone looking like they were casing out houses and me and the old men were standing there talking about it and one of the old men looked at me and said, "SOMEONE ought to go and follow that guy and see where he lives in case anything comes up missing!" ...so I did. I do things like that. We dont trust the cops either. The cops were at my neighbors house the other day about something that had nothing to do with him and my dog woke me up at 0230 barking, so I went up there with my shotgun and stood in a shadow while one knocked on his door and the other hid behind a bush with his gun...good thing they didn't **** with my neighbor.
We started doing that after someone broke in several of our houses and stole a lot of stuff. When the police were called, they didn't even investigate. We told them to take finger prints and their reply was, "Oh they just do that in the movies!" Now we tell each other if we are going to be gone for a few days. All of the folks around here will tell someone to beat feet quick if we know they don't belong.
In this day and age HONOR is not synonymous with LAW.


Good to see you and yours have some *****. We had a spate of burglaries/robberies where I live last summer. The police here exist to say, "There's nothing we can do." We tried to organize a posse to patrol at nights in shifts. Out of about fifty guys asked, we got seven takers, five men and two women. My Chinese wife made a few enemies pointing out to the reluctant that their attitude is what let the Japanese almost win the war here despite being ten-times outnumbered. In the end, the only regulars were a PLA veteran about my age, a younger guy between jobs, my wife, me, and my Border Collie. No thieves caught; activity did drop off.


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