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Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:58 pm
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Ugh. From what I've read so far, I think this guy would find himself right at home with the radical far left, who take refuge in the realms of debauchery and deviance.
It is hard to imagine him being remotely paralleling the national socialists of the day.
Some of his views make sense, but overall, I find this character to be repulsive. Someone with no true sense of identity, who wears as a mask that is a collage of many cultural attributes, ideologies, and trends. Perhaps he sought to be in himself a work of avant-garde anti-art. Or perhaps I'm missing something.
What is it about this man that caught your attention and prompted you to share the link here?


Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:52 pm
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He seems to have such a mix of views, that it is hard to pin him down into one category. Not that anyone should have to fit in a box, but Evola seems rather extreme in his range of views, like a needle swinging wildly back and forth.
Where he espoused antidemocratic principles, I see the modern day far left adopting such principles, all the while claiming to be proponents of democracy. The far left are only champions of democracy when they are the majority, and when things don't go their way, suddenly they advocate violence. Rather hypocritical of them. I don't know why evola was opposed to democracy, and I'm not saying he was wrong to be opposed to it, but rather I question his intentions. He strikes me, from reading about him on Wikipedia, as being a person who would have been a major proponent of the EU, which is anti nationalist, antidemocratic, and very totalitarian.
I don't disagree with his views on materialism and social decay, but I feel that Adi had a much more grounded and balanced world view for the most part. He at least expressed a great deal of rational thought, and I quite agree with his folkish ideals, as far as I understand them.
Nationalism is not really the ideal model, in my opinion, but from our current circumstances, it would seem to be the most logical stepping stone to moving back towards a more tribal system. The individual is nothing but a number in a nation, and even less than that on a world view, but in a tribe the individual is family, blood, friend, and a valued member of the community. The individual is not anonymous, and there is mutual motivation to value the opinions of others in he tribe and to be supportive and find some common ground. In a nation, it is one group overpowering the other. In a totalitarian system the few dictate the lives of the many, while in a democracy it is mob rule — for example, 20% of the national vote can dictate the result for the remaining 80%, and people think that is fair? Something that affects the lives of all should not be dependent upon the fickleness and foolish masses, in which a minority of people can impose their will over the majority only because the whole is divided. All that serves to do is to invalidate the concerns, interests and needs of everyone else. It is very far from being a noble and just system. The sheep leading the wolves.
I'd rather be part of a pack than of a herd. Nor does a pack does rule the herd.


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I thought it was interesting that he was a "fascist racist", but still interested in various cultures and tradition throughout the world.

His name came to my attention reading an interview of Dr. Mirabello. He quoted Baron Evola, in modern war we "Exterminate people like germs and insects."


Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:42 pm
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sweinodinsson wrote:
I thought it was interesting that he was a "fascist racist", but still interested in various cultures and tradition throughout the world.

His name came to my attention reading an interview of Dr. Mirabello. He quoted Baron Evola, in modern war we "Exterminate people like germs and insects."


Ah, good point! Must be a very strange kind of racist who is fascinated by other cultures. Though I did get the impression that he disapproved of Black's and Jews. It seemed to me he was primarily interested in what could be called Aryan cultures.
Can't disagree with the quote about war.


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Fand wrote:
sweinodinsson wrote:
I thought it was interesting that he was a "fascist racist", but still interested in various cultures and tradition throughout the world.

His name came to my attention reading an interview of Dr. Mirabello. He quoted Baron Evola, in modern war we "Exterminate people like germs and insects."


Ah, good point! Must be a very strange kind of racist who is fascinated by other cultures. Though I did get the impression that he disapproved of Black's and Jews. It seemed to me he was primarily interested in what could be called Aryan cultures.
Can't disagree with the quote about war.



Fand, have you read any of Evola's books? He is nothing like a leftist...? His background is hermeticism, and he deals primarily with metaphysics. To sum up his ideas in one word, i'd say...Transcendence.
Uninformed people would call his spiritual works nonsense, but he has thoroughly researched it from all Aryan cultures, or should i use the PC euphemism..."Indo European". That's the thing most modern people don't realize. The traditions of Buddhists, Hindu's, Celts, Teutons, Guanches, Egyptians etc all sprang from a common spring.
Most people would place him on the Far Right Extremist political spectrum, but really it's not that simple. As far as "hating on democracy"...the west isn't a democracy; it's a kleptocracy.

In my mind there's nothing wrong with extremists. It's the safe and easy going moderates I'm not too fond of.


Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:36 am
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Legal, no, I haven't read any of good books. I was only making observations based on the wiki resources. To go off Wikipedia, certainly makes him seem more than a little off. But Wikipedia has revealed itself to be heavily biased on many things. They're always twisting the facts to tithe narrative.
I've read as much regarding the "indo-european" cultures, and am well aware of the Aryan connections between them all. I find it rather disturbing that certain influential persons/groups go to such great lengths to erase this telling detail from human consciousness.

When you say that the west is a kleptocracy, are you referring only to our modern systems? But I suppose there is some truth to that. I've heard it said we are living under the rule of an oligarchy. Either way!, the people are robbed of the fruits of their labour, the land is raped and pillaged, sovereign nations and weaker peoples in less developed countries are exploited by the military industrial complex. The list goes on and on. I do wonder where this parasitic nature comes from. Was it always present in the west, or does it have another source?


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Yeah Wiki is wrong on so many topics. Pretty much anyone can edit and make posts there. Yeah I mean modern "democracies", they're corrupt to the core. The world is really run by men in dark suits behind the scenes. The politicians are just puppets, that's why they never follow through with their plans-they aren't allowed! JFK tried, and look what happened to him.

Whether or not it's always been like that in the west, in Rome and Greece etc, well I don't really know. I've read that the global financial mafia (the Oligarchy) had it's genesis in Sumeria, and has ruled under different regimes since then with the same bloodline. I found that theory interesting since the Kali Yuga started in about 3 100bc(The same time as Sumer), and ends 2025ad. Maybe when the Oligarchy is destroyed, that's when the Iron Age/Kali Yuga will end?
Anyway...I don't think there's a way to know for sure. The oligarchy could have been formed in the late 1600's? They're bad news anyhow.


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In fact Baron Evola was a great man. You will see at least one of his phrases used in the Odin brotherhood book.

If you have not read Evola, this, in my opinion, is his best work:

https://www.amazon.com/Revolt-Against-Modern-World-Julius/dp/089281506X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1501657720&sr=1-1&keywords=julius+evola


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Lugal said:
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modern "democracies", they're corrupt to the core. The world is really run by men in dark suits behind the scenes. The politicians are just puppets, that's why they never follow through with their plans-they aren't allowed! JFK tried, and look what happened to him.

^^^this is precisely the point I try to make to people all the time! Most are completely oblivious to this very crucial fact. I always wonder about some politicians who gave the impression of being genuine when they ran for office only to appear as though they've been put on a short leash after taking office. How many went into it with good intentions? I suppose there's no way to know for sure, but it seems the ones who anger the establishment enough are trying to go against the flow, even if only to serve their own purposes. JFK is the perfect example though, and yet good look getting people to accept that.

I've also heard that the "oligarchy" has been in existence more or less uninterrupted for thousands of years, changing locale whenever it all goes belly up. The big break through that allowed for the move towards global dominance, though, appears to be the invention of the roman catholic church and the holy empire, after the downfall of Rome. You can conquer a people by force but you will never hold them... Unless you can conquer their minds as well.
I don't think I've heard of the Kali Yuga. It sounds Indian. But your mention of 2025 has piqued my interest. If anything can spell the end of the global cabal, bring it on!
Slightly off topic — my husband has taken to remarking that he feels like he's living on the planet of the apes. Like an alien planet. He's from Germany, but we were in the states for 11 years, the last four of which were in a small mountain town in Idaho. 5 years before that, we were in the south, where I'm from. After those nine years, we come back to Germany, and it's a shock to us both. How people have changed so much in the 11 years we were away. I guess it's more or less the same just about everywhere, though.


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Well their times coming to an end, fortunately. Thousands of years might seem like a long time, but really it isn't. It's just a tiny fraction of the human history.
Regarding the Kali Yuga, the Aryans had this concept of ascending and descending ages, which more or less have a great effect on life.
a link just got posted about this in "Off Topic". You should read it if you're interested.


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Lugal wrote:
Yeah Wiki is wrong on so many topics. Pretty much anyone can edit and make posts there. Yeah I mean modern "democracies", they're corrupt to the core. The world is really run by men in dark suits behind the scenes. The politicians are just puppets, that's why they never follow through with their plans-they aren't allowed! JFK tried, and look what happened to him.

Whether or not it's always been like that in the west, in Rome and Greece etc, well I don't really know. I've read that the global financial mafia (the Oligarchy) had it's genesis in Sumeria, and has ruled under different regimes since then with the same bloodline. I found that theory interesting since the Kali Yuga started in about 3 100bc(The same time as Sumer), and ends 2025ad. Maybe when the Oligarchy is destroyed, that's when the Iron Age/Kali Yuga will end?
Anyway...I don't think there's a way to know for sure. The oligarchy could have been formed in the late 1600's? They're bad news anyhow.


I disagree with one point - I think the Kali Yuga will destroy the Oligarchy - the universe waits for no man/men however powerful they believe they are. Stormr


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Lugal wrote:
Well their times coming to an end, fortunately. Thousands of years might seem like a long time, but really it isn't. It's just a tiny fraction of the human history.
Regarding the Kali Yuga, the Aryans had this concept of ascending and descending ages, which more or less have a great effect on life.
a link just got posted about this in "Off Topic". You should read it if you're interested.

I will, as soon as I have the time. I wasn't aware that the Aryans held a concept of descending and ascending ages, except for where western astrology is concerned.


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If Julius Evola interests you, also read about the Thule-Seminar and national-anarchism.


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Fand wrote:
Lugal wrote:
Well their times coming to an end, fortunately. Thousands of years might seem like a long time, but really it isn't. It's just a tiny fraction of the human history.
Regarding the Kali Yuga, the Aryans had this concept of ascending and descending ages, which more or less have a great effect on life.
a link just got posted about this in "Off Topic". You should read it if you're interested.

I will, as soon as I have the time. I wasn't aware that the Aryans held a concept of descending and ascending ages, except for where western astrology is concerned.


As Big Country hints below, that notion is developed in various essays on the Thule Seminar site. Whatever the precise views of ancient Aryans, their latter-day continuers work out the implications of various scattered hints.


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Wotan's Late Harvest wrote:
Fand wrote:
Lugal wrote:
Well their times coming to an end, fortunately. Thousands of years might seem like a long time, but really it isn't. It's just a tiny fraction of the human history.
Regarding the Kali Yuga, the Aryans had this concept of ascending and descending ages, which more or less have a great effect on life.
a link just got posted about this in "Off Topic". You should read it if you're interested.

I will, as soon as I have the time. I wasn't aware that the Aryans held a concept of descending and ascending ages, except for where western astrology is concerned.


As Big Country hints below, that notion is developed in various essays on the Thule Seminar site. Whatever the precise views of ancient Aryans, their latter-day continuers work out the implications of various scattered hints.


I still need to look that up. Thanks for the reminder.


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